The next step is to consider the pre-delay setting (the time before the onset of the reverb). This can be used to increase the size of the room and the apparent distance of the snare from the listener. However, as the pre-delay time increases the delay itself becomes more prominent. As you increase the pre-delay time, be careful that you don’t create an uneasy disjointed feeling. Setting the pre-delay time to match the tempo of the track becomes more important as you go for longer pre-delays. If it doesn’t match, you can get a strange effect where the reverb feels out of time with the rest of the track:
The amount of reverb to apply is in some respects determined by individual taste, genre and even fashion. However, starting a mix with reverbs that have very long tails is usually best avoided.
This may sound interesting on its own, but it’ll make it a lot harder when making reverb choices for other elements. Generally, the best approach is to start small and get bigger.
Next, we’ll dial in a touch of the same reverb for the hats. Overdo this and you can easily lose the crispness of the mix.
Again, if the reverb has too long a tail here you can risk ruining the rhythm track.
Make It Bigger
Some elements might benefit from a bigger sound. Mixing and sound design really overlap at this point. Rather than just placing the sound in an ambient space, we’re really shaping how it sounds. For the claps, you could try using a reverb with a longer tail…
…although it’s always worth tweaking the reverb to suit the track. Decay, diffusion, plus low and high frequency roll-off are common parameters worth exploring. Decay is usually related to the hardness of the surfaces in a room (the harder they are, the more they reflect, and the longer the reverberant decay).
It’s at this stage that we can really start thinking about three-dimensional mixing techniques. It’s easy to pan sounds from left to right, but moving sounds ‘backward’ and ‘forward’ in the virtual space is a little more tricky. Increasing the high frequency roll-off makes for a duller ambience, which helps place the sound further away from you in the mix. In the real world, high frequencies lose energy very quickly the further they have to travel through a space (this occurs because the high frequencies are more easily absorbed and diffused than low frequencies).
Increasing low frequency roll-off (in music production terms, at least) also helps avoid muddiness and blurring in the low-end.
This is what happens when you get it wrong.
Hey AM, nice article!
Just for clarification – are ‘early reflections’ another way of saying pre-delay, or is it a specific setting on some reverb plugins?
And thank you for introducing us to some nice looking reverb plugins. If you have any recommendations on some nice sounding free ones, I’d be muchly appreciated. 😉
Thanks for all the help,
The early reflections are the first cluster of echoes which reach your ears after a sound bounces back at you from the walls of a room. As those echoes pass your ears and continue echoing around the room, that’s the reverb tail. The pre-delay is the time it takes the early reflections to reach your ears after the initial sound.
In real-life terms, the pre-delay would be determined mainly by the size of the room. The sound of the early reflections would be determined by shape, surfaces, etc.
The best reverbs all depend on what you’re looking for. A lot of DAWs already have good ones. Logic’s Space Designer is particularly underrated. If you’ve got a little bit of money to spend and want something with real character, D16’s Toraverb is amazing for dance music and quite affordable. http://www.d16.pl/index.php?menu=228
Ah, I see what you mean now.
So the size (i.e. drum room vs. church hall) determines the (number of) echoes and early reflections characteristics are dependent on what those echoes bounce off of, correct (i.e walls, chairs, windows, etc.)? And to make sure I have that correct, the only way to change the sound of early reflections would just be to change the actual ‘room’?
The quick response is appreciated! I’ll look into the D16 Toraverb as well. (If any readers have any suggestions for their ‘verbs of choice, I’d like to read)
That all assumes you’re dealing with a reverb which tries to replicate the sound of real-life spaces. Some reverbs don’t make very much effort to sound ‘realistic’ (springs and earlier algorithmic reverbs, for example), whereas some are all about sounding as much like a real space as possible (convolution reverbs are the obvious choice here). It really all depends what reverb effect you’re using, what sound it tries to recreate and how much it allows you to customise that sound.
Ultimately, for electronic music it’s not usually worth getting hung up on the details of whether your reverb sounds realistic or not. It’s more important to consider whether it suits the track. Realism be damned!
We’ll put together a guide to the different types of reverb effect…
Are there a feature somewhere in this page, to make it printer friendly?
Hi mox. Our print stylesheet makes a few changes to the layout, including link targets in brackets, etc. If you’d prefer an exact replica of what you see on screen, you’re probably best off taking screenshots and then printing those. Hope that helps.
Yeah, I already use to print yours articles with screenshots, but I was asking if there is a feature to print a whole article in one page, without the need of reprint of non-content things in each page.
Anyway, love attack mag! keep up the good work!
The Attack Book… Watch this space…
Another great article. Thanks a lot, are you going to write one about compressors?
RVA – stay tuned!
Great article. How about doing a series on ‘how to get that sound’ ? Where we could ask for particular sounds/artists?
Definitely something we’re considering for the future…
If one wants to place something further back in the mix, in order to create more front to back depth in their mix, what sort of reverb settings would be appropriate?
Longer decays and HF damping on the reverb? (Plus a possible high shelf cut?)
Nice articles here. Detailed stuff covering several electronic music genres. You guys should make some stuff regarding vocals, I think it’s the only core part that you haven’t covered yet.
Keep it up mates.
Great article shows alot of what not to do. Any tips on using reverb on basslines without muddying up the mix say how you would in big room house and some dubstep.
James, the most important thing is to make sure the reverb is high-pass filtered. You can either filter on the send before the reverb or afterwards (they have subtly different effects) in order to cut out the lower frequencies and avoid them clogging up the bottom end of the mix.
From there you can experiment with pre-delay and decay times to find a sweet spot which gives just enough of a reverb tail on the bass notes.
In some cases it can also work well to use the unprocessed bass as a sidechain signal to control a compressor which ducks the reverb return every time the bass plays. That way it clears a space for itself, then allows the reverb to come back in and fill the gaps between notes.
It’s hard to get right, although if your mix and arrangement are sparse it can sometimes work well.
Is Nonlin2 a free one? I’d be glad to know about any other non-linear reverbs.
Very interesting tutorial! I realized how I always misused the reverb since now.
A short question: maybe I missed it in the article but is reverb used on a send channel or in insert? I suppose is in send but then how the amount to be send to the channel has to be set more or less?
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Great article btw, very helpful.
Ok, I feel so stupid now. I jumped straight to the end listened to the last two audios, raw and reverbed ones, and for the life of me I cannot tell the difference. I do not have monitors, but I do have decent set of 2.1 speakers. What’s wrong with me? 😀
The dry version sounds tighter and better to me.
The dry version sounds like an old UK “JobFinder” soundtrack., The wet version sounds infinitely more engaging.
Top work. Did that book ever come out? (goes hunting)
That bass with rev sounds dope tho. undesirable, really?
Also dry mix sounds tight, it could just do with the mid-top end percussion reverbs.
you def need some 250+ ohm headphones fam. i recently bought and now i hear lots of things i have never listened in my life. For example look at that early reflections part. I first listened it with my monitors, didn’t hear that bouncing things until I listened again with my phones. (beyer dt 770 pro 250 ohm, go for it 10/10)